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Dissolved Teams > Policy Advisory Team

April 7, 1999 Minutes

1. CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Erdahl at 8:30 a.m. It was held at the Roseville City Hall.

Members Present: David Arbeit, Virginia Erdahl, Brad Henry, Richard Johnson, Paul Leegard, and Gary Caswell for Patrick O'Connor.

Members Absent: Dennis Welsch

Visitor: Mark Beauchamp, Gina Buss, Yvonne Chaillet, John Lunde, and Trudy Richter of the Fair-Share Financial Model consultant team.

Support Staff: Randall Johnson

2. ACCEPT AGENDA

Gary Caswell moved and Arbeit seconded to consider Item 4b (critique consultant presentation) before Item 4a and to accept the agenda, as revised. Motion carried unanimously.

3. ACCEPT MEETING SUMMARY

Henry moved and Arbeit seconded to approve the March 10, 1999 meeting summary, as submitted. Motion carried unanimously.

4. DISCUSSION/ACTION ITEMS

4b. Critique Consultant Presentation Planned for April 21st Policy Board Meeting - and - 4a. MetroGIS Fair-Share Financial and Organizational Structure Project Update

Staff summarized the two primary purposes of the Fair-Share Model presentation to the Policy Board on April 21st – 1) receive confirmation on several assumptions the consultant team will use to develop the financial and organizational models and share a schedule of activities for the remainder of the study. John Lunde summarized the content of the presentation, concentrating primarily on the assumptions for which ratification will be sought from the Board. The Fair-Share model presentation will follow the presentation from the I-35W Corridor Coalition and should be used to illustrate concepts. John also explained his work to develop a unit-pricing scheme for regional data solutions, develop a "data readiness assessment" for custodians of primary data that will be integrated for a regional solution, and to assess current and anticipated internal MetroGIS operational costs.

The Policy Advisory Team and consultant team spent a significant portion of the meeting discussing assumptions key to the financial and organizational aspects of the study. Several changes to the assumptions included in the draft presentation were agreed upon. The revised slides will be provided to staff for inclusion with the April 21st agenda packet. Agreed upon changes included and Trudy Richter voluntered to prepare the revised language:

  • The "policies already adopted" slide will be revised to paraphrase the language of the philosophies incorporated into the interim data and cost sharing agreements, in particular concerning public sector access to data and sharing costs.
  • The "Conclusion" slide will be renamed "Timeline" and a more detailed list of decision/review milestones will be provided. Staff will provide this list to the consultant team following comment from the Team chair.
  • The "Data Sales" slide will be replaced with an assumption that clarifies MetroGIS will not diminish the revenue stream of primary producers received from any sales of regional datasets to non-government interests.
  • Identify the primary issue or issues associated with each assumption. The group agreed that these issues include: value non-cash contributions such as data; using a measure of consistency with regional guidelines a factor to establish the value of data contributions; identify incentives that will be necessary to sustain involvement by producers of priority data, such as counties who state they do not rely much on data from other organizations to carry out their responsibilities; exclude the concept of return on investment (ROI) when devising policies concerning sharing data among government entities and clarify the difference between recovery of development costs and recovery of the costs of reproduction.

Mark Beauchamp summarized his conceptual design for the financial model component of the study. He stated he will rely upon the results of Task B (Estimate of Costs of Collaboration) to establish the universe of expenses that must be addressed to sustain a mature MetroGIS organization.

The first step will be to develop equitable user (stakeholder) classes among which to allocate the costs of sustaining the MetroGIS organization. The group concluded user classes should include counties, cities, watersheds, school districts, metropolitan, state, and federal. Further discussion is needed to decide how to handle utilities and possibly other non-government entities that maintain data identified as a priority information need or other assets important to the success of MetroGIS. For the first pass, the group agreed non-government units should be excluded but the model should be flexible enough to include other classes at a later date.

The second step involves developing a scheme to insure financial stability for MetroGIS. This will involve defining an equitable contribution for each user class and, to the extent possible, tie the contributions to preceived benefits received from the presence of MetroGIS. A combination of interviews, preliminary results of Will Craig’s MetroGIS Benefits Study, review of priority information needs survey data, and consultant expertise will be used to generate assumptions about the perceived benefit of MetroGIS to each user class. It was generally agreed that organizations whose jurisdictions cross county boundaries (e.g., school districts, watershed districts, metropolitan, etc.) will receive the most benefit from MetroGIS. A means to account for contributions in the form of cash, data, and people/equipment must be included. A subscription fee was mentioned as a possibility for cash contributions. The group also recognized the need to insure an equitable balance among the entities within each class (e.g., Minneapolis versus Lauderdale within the City class) and a means to credit contributions to existing GIS collaboratives consistent with the needs of MetroGIS (City of Roseville contributes to Ramsey County GIS Users Group which assists Ramsey County with GIS data maintenance expenses important to regional data solution.)

The third step involves building a model in the form of a spreadsheet. It will be a living model with flexibility to add components and will include a user-friendly means to revise assumptions and recalculate contributions as policies change or better information becomes available.

Finally, guidelines for "sale" of data to non-government entities will be provided but the group agreed the topic of data sales policies should be dealt with in-depth as a separate matter following this study.

4c. Information Policy Legislation Update

No discussion due to lack of time.

5. OTHER BUSINESS

None

6. NEXT MEETINGS

  • Wednesday, June 2nd, Roseville City Hall, 8:30 a.m.

7 ADJOURN

The meeting adjourned at 10:40:A.M.

Prepared by Randall Johnson, AICP, MetroGIS Staff Coordinator

   
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