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Dissolved Teams > Policy Advisory Team

July 20, 1999 Minutes

1. CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Erdahl at 8:30 a.m. It was held at the Roseville City Hall.

Members Present: David Arbeit, David Claypool, Virginia Erdahl, Richard Johnson, Paul Leegard, and Dennis Welsch.

Members Absent: Cliff Aichinger, Brad Henry and Patrick O'Connor Visitor: Mark Beauchamp and Trudy Richter of the Fair-Share Financial Model consultant team and Gary Stevenson

Support Staff: Randall Johnson and Theresa Foster

2. ACCEPT AGENDA

The proposed agenda was accepted as submitted.

3. ACCEPT MEETING SUMMARY

Richard Johnson moved and Claypool seconded to approve the July 7, 1999 meeting summary as submitted. Motion carried, ayes all.

4. DISCUSSION/ACTION ITEMS

4a. MetroGIS Fair-Share Financial Model

Beauchamp summarized for Team comment:

  1. Revisions to the benefits rating scheme requested by the Team at the previous meeting,
  2. The general cost classifications and amounts provided by John Lunde of the consultant team,
  3. The assumption that regional solutions for "socioeconomic characteristics of areas", as piloted by the I-35W Corridor Coalition, and "where people live" are too expensive to consider until MetroGIS has addressed the other eleven priority information needs and has established a stable revenue stream,
  4. The assumption of a four-year timeframe to implement regional solutions for the other eleven priority information needs,
  5. The effect on subscription fees of various budget amounts,
  6. Conservative penetration rates assumed for cities, school districts, and watershed districts,
  7. The assumption that past expenditures for GIS data and program development by participants are ignored in the model, that is, the model is based upon "marginal costs" and,
  8. His recommendation that MetroGIS should develop a business plan, including a marketing component, to define a phase-in strategy to achieve a mature MetroGIS (provision of 22 core functions and implementation of 11 priority information need solutions) and to sustain a mature MetroGIS as assumed by the fair-share financial model.

It was agreed phasing-in of subscription rates would be the most prudent way to proceed and, consequently, the group agreed on a need to obtain grants and other supplemental sources of funding (bridge financing). Chairperson Erdahl mentioned that special projects with the private sector might be another means of expanding revenue sources to achieve priority data development. Team members concurred few stakeholder organizations would pay for products not yet available which would be the effect of the charging a fee that annualizes the cost of data development and annual operations over a four-year period. It was agreed that at the September 16th Peer Review Forum, perspective subscribers should be informed that a phase in of subscription rates will be proposed and that estimated interim fees and fees once the eleven regional data solutions should be shared for comment.

Claypool commented, and the Team concurred, that the business plan should include a marketing element. The Team concurred MetroGIS’ proposal to provide regional data solutions to priority information needs is valuable information to the stakeholders’ GIS program development plans. If they know something is pending they can concentrate on another aspect(s) of their program and are potential contributors to the MetroGIS project. Everyone also concurred that the interim data and cost sharing agreements are providing significant benefit and will continue to do so regardless of the prospect of integrated regional data solutions. Stevenson noted that the status quo might be a cost-effective alternative to the notion of developing regional solutions for each of the priority information needs.

It was agreed to reduce the initial penetration rate for cities from 30 to 25 percent. Members concurred that the mostly likely cities to join would be those that adjoin the boundary of another metro-area county (38 percent of the cities in the region) and those located within counties that do not maintain GIS data that would be provided by the 11 MetroGIS data solutions.

Arbeit commented that any federal participation, other than grants, is unlikely because federal acceptance of an ongoing contribution to MetroGIS would set a precedent. He also noted that a contribution from the State at the rate of 15% of MetroGIS’ costs is also questionable. The Team concurred that a fair-share contribution from federal and state levels of government should be shown in the model even though these funds may have to come from other sources to help justify grants, in particular from the state and federal government. The Team also agreed it is appropriate to propose a recommended federal contribution to regional collaboratives for discussion with the FGDC (Federal Geographic Data Committee) since they paid for our study and are looking to MetroGIS to provide suggestions for how to equitably finance collaborative GIS initiatives.

It was agreed to share the projected subscription fees for a $500,000 phase-in budget and for a mature MetroGIS with the Policy Board for comment on July 28th. Members offered additions and modifications to the draft report prepared by staff to the Policy Board. It was agreed the costs should also include contingency funds. Staff agreed to revise the draft report and forward it to Chairperson Erdahl for approval.

4b(1). MetroGIS Legal Organizational Structure

Richard Johnson suggested, and the others agreed, that a final recommendation regarding a legal organizational structure for MetroGIS should be postponed until the recommended Business Plan is completed. An objective of the Business Plan would be to determine whether a separate (formal) legal structure for MetroGIS is desirable and, if so, when it should be pursued. The initial conclusion that a Joint Powers Agreement (JPA) organization is the most appropriate structure would then be reevaluated to insure it would be consistent with both short and long term needs of MetroGIS. The group conceded that the current informal structure might be a viable option during the interim period until a mature level of services and the eleven regional data solutions have been provided. The group also acknowledged that the work to date to evaluate legal organizational options would provide much of the information needed to make a final recommendation following preparation of the Business plan. Staff agreed to revise the draft staff report for the July 28th Policy Board meeting accordingly and to forward the revised draft to Chairperson Erdahl for approval.

4b(2). MetroGIS Operational Structure

Team members concurred that direction should be sought from Board members at the July 28th meeting to identify ways to improve communication between the Policy Board and Coordinating Committee as requested by Chairperson Reinhardt. All concurred that it will be important for Policy Board members to be knowledgeable of the issues prior to the October 27th meeting when they will be asked to decide on recommendations that will have a significant impact on shaping fundamental policy and direction for MetroGIS. The also acknowledged the importance of good communication to buy-in among broad interests of fundamental policies. Members, however, questioned the workability of Policy Board members chairing advisory teams, as suggested by Chairperson Reinhardt, but were receptive to Policy Board members serving as liaisons to the advisory teams and the Coordinating Committee. Several written communication options were also suggested for staff to include in the report for the July 28th Board meeting.

4c. ESRI Public Access Grant

Welsch moved and Leegard seconded to recommend that the Policy Board authorize the Metropolitan Council to apply for this grant on behalf of MetroGIS. Motion carried, ayes all.

5. INFORMATION ITEMS

No discussion of the July 28th Policy Board agenda

6. OTHER BUSINESS

None

7. NEXT MEETINGS

  • August 4, and September 8th both at the Roseville City Hall, beginning at 8:30 a.m.

8 ADJOURN

Arbeit moved and Leegard seconded to adjourn at 10:30 a.m. Motion carried, ayes all.

Prepared by Randall Johnson, AICP, MetroGIS Staff Coordinator

   
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