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1. Call to Order
Co-Chair Krum called the meeting to order at 8:39 a.m., at the Roseville City Hall in Roseville.
Members present: John Connelly (St. Paul & Ramsey County Charter Commissions); Rick Gelbmann
(Metropolitan Council); Blaine Hackett (SRF Consulting); Ed Krum (Mn/DOT); Jay Krafthefer (Mn/DOT); Susanne Maeder
(LMIC); Michael Munson (Metropolitan Council); Rick Person (City of St. Paul); Bart Richardson (DNR IS); Ronald Wencl
(USGS)
Members absent: Bob Basques (City of St. Paul); Roger Carlson (City of Minneapolis); Roger Carlson
(Hennepin County); David Claypool (Ramsey County); Will Craig (UM CURA); Lisa Freese (MN Planning); Elliott Graham
(Ramsey County); Catherine Hansen (SRF Consulting); Jane Harper (Washington County); Mark Kotz (PCA); Jim Maxwell (The
Lawrence Group); Bob Moulder (Hennepin County); Donna Roper (Minneapolis Public School District); Ben Verbick (LOGIS);
Tim Zimmerman (Hennepin County)
Visitors: Gary Stevenson (Dakota County); Trudy Richter (Richardson, Richter and Assoc.); Solveig
Berg (Metropolitan Council)
Staff: Theresa Foster (MetroGIS Technical Coordinator)
2. Accept Agenda
Member Krum motioned to accept the agenda as submitted, with typo change on page 22 (Change Agenda
Item 6c to 6b), Member Connelly seconded.
Motion carried.
3. Introduction of Team Members
Co-Chair Krum welcomed all members and then asked members to go around the table and introduce
themselves formally to all members of the team.
4. Accept Meeting Minutes
Member Gelbmann motioned to accept the meeting minutes from August 19th, 1999, member
Connelly seconded.
Motion carried.
5a. Fairwell to Ed Krum, New Co-Chair Confirmation
Co-Chair Connelly thanked resigning co-chair Krum for his dedication to the MetroGIS Technical
Advisory Team, participation at all Coordinating Committee meetings, in helping organize/ plan the Census Boundaries
workgroup, and volunteer efforts to lead a focus group at the MetroGIS Fair-Share Peer Review Forum held in September.
Connelly presented Krum a certificate of appreciation for her work this past year. Connelly then stated the non-formal
process of nominating the 2000 Co-chair replacement for Krum as follows: Coordinating Committee Liaisons (Craig, Wencl,
Claypool and Gelbmann) in approval with the standing Co-Chairs from the Technical Advisory Team, 1999, agreed that John
Connelly (St. Paul & Ramsey County Charter Commissions) will continue as Co-Chair and nominated Jim Maxwell (The
Lawrence Group) to serve as the newly elected Technical Advisory Team Co-Chairs for the annual 2000 calendar year.
Member Wencl motioned to accept the nomination of Co-Chair Maxwell and the continued Co-Chair
responsibilities by Connelly, member Person seconded.
Motion carried.
5b. Census Geography - Data Specifications, Roles and Responsibilities
Member Gelbmann summarized the data specifications, roles and responsibilities noting that the
Metropolitan Council had accepted the role of regional custodian for the census geography information need. Gelbmann
explained that the Council had entered into a contract with The Lawrence Group (TLG) to build a 1990 regional census
geography dataset, registering it to the both the regional street centerline dataset and parcel boundary data
maintained by the counties. The 1990 dataset is currently undergoing beta testing. When the testing is completed the
final data specifications will be documented in a meta data record. He also noted that work on development of a 2000
regional census geography dataset will begin as soon as preliminary boundary information is released by the Census
Bureau, which is expected to occur by summer 2000. Wencl asked if this was going to be a dataset licensed by TLG, and
distributed in the same way as the Street Centerline dataset. Gelbmann added that the census geography dataset will
be owned by the Metropolitan Council and be accessible to everyone in the public domain via ftp and internet access.
Member Krum motioned to approve the formalized data specifications, and roles and responsibilities of
the Metropolitan Council, in its assumed role as regional custodian for the 1990 and 2000 Census Geography for
distribution to MetroGIS stakeholders, member Connelly seconded.
Motion carried.
5c. Minnesota Land Cover Guidelines
Member Richardson updated and summarized the Minnesota Land Cover Classification System Peer Review
information and recommendations of endorsement as a standard and DNR Roles and responsibilities before the members
present. Wencl recommended that without further review and adoption by other DNR divisions and agencies he would have a
problem endorsing this as a standard. Members then took a vote. Ayes 10, Nayes 1 (Wencl). Members discussed the
realization that this should be endorsed as a best practice and withhold recommendation as a standard till further
review of the classification system is done.
Member Hackett motioned to approve the formalized land cover guidelines, data specification, and
roles and responsibilities of the DNR as stated in the agenda documentation, and approve MetroGIS to co-sponsor a
training session with the DNR for all interested MetroGIS stakeholders and authorize the MLCCS as a "current best
practice", member Gelbmann seconded.
Motion carried.
Richter arrived.
5g. Technical Design Pilot - Parcel Dataset
Gary Stevenson, Director of Land Information and Surveying for Dakota County and member of the
MetroGIS Coordinating Committee, and member of the "stitch committee" updated and demonstrated progress made to date
from the "stitch together" parcel data received from six of the metro area counties to date, missing Anoka County.
Attached to the stitched dataset there are 4 attributes (PIN, FIPS Code, Ownership, and Value) from only Carver,
Washington and Dakota Counties. There is a continuing effort by the workgroup to normalize attribute data based upon
the MetroGIS identified standard attributes. To date the size of the dataset ~400 MN with 750,000 parcels (less
Anoka). Stevenson showed that the data has minor gaps/overlaps and will not be changed, using the data as is from
counties. Also, the dataset is stripped of lakes and road right-of-ways. Members were then asked to provide comments
and discussion on the technical aspects of the pilot project.
Gelbmann: Is it the goal/responsibility of each county to provide analysis on overlaps/gaps?
Stevenson: No, this data has only been reprojected, each county will only be using a normalized datum
and no analysis will be done on gaps/overlaps.
Krum: Is there a strategy for updating?
Stevenson: Each county will develop ftp procedures to upload there data to a site specified in the
corrected datum and format. Anticipates that there will be further work done on the attributes.
Krafthefer: Will the users have access to meta data? There needs to be more standards on attributes.
Stevenson: Right now this dataset is stripped of information, no meta data documented.
Person: Glad to see this is being developed, even in a pilot format. Need to bring out to the public
for universal acceptance.
Person: Is there and intention to have this out on the web for public access as in the design of the
Roseville data? We need a web access design for public distribution.
Stevenson: It should be developed for a ftp site, made freely available to the public sector and a
subscription fee to the private sector.
Richter: Is this an equivalent to a pilot project?
Stevenson: It is data development of a regional dataset/process done in ~ 25 hours.
5d. MetroGIS Logo Utilization
Co-Chair Krum summarized the need for MetroGIS to adopt the recommendation that all data products
that distributed by MetroGIS carry the MetroGIS logo and when distributing or using MetroGIS shared datasets, each map
presentation or documentation should include source information. Member Gelbmann asked why this recommendation didn't
come from the MetroGIS Policy Advisory Team. Staff stated that due to time contraints in the Business Plan and since
most of the Technical Team is familiar with data licensing, distribution requirements it could be brought forward by
the Technical Advisory Team at this time.
Member Connelly motioned to approve the recommendation, member Gelbmann seconded.
Motion carried.
Person departed.
5f. Process for Data Development
Trudy Richter, Business Plan Consultant, described the process for implementing the priority business
information needs. The process clearly describes MetroGIS’ role in the development of regional datasets, roles
and expectations for MetroGIS participants for peer review workgroups as well as the in-depth business information
needs process workgroups, as well as a significant direction on how/when information needs or datasets enter into the
MetroGIS process. Gelbmann stated that this diagram seems to build too much bureaucracy into a process. Richter
responded, that until now there hasn't been a described process to let stakeholders know how/where they enter/exit the
process. Wencl stated that it is hard to define a fixed conceptual design of the process. Gelbmann said that he wants
this process to be flexible to change and development. Richter commented that the Technical Team needs to have a
role/direction to adopt standards and guidelines as well as endorsement of other datasets and this gives them that
process to do so. Gelbmann stated he would be comfortable with the process if it clearly defines the differences
between dataset implementation and the business information needs process. Richter noted his changes.
Member Connelly moved to accept the process diagram with the aforementioned changes, Gelbmann
seconded.
Motion carried.
5e. Lakes, Wetlands, etc., Workgroup and
Due to time constraints members were directed to read the update from member Maeder, t the next
meeting Maeder will brief team of the progress to date.
6. Information Items
Members were directed by staff to review the information items at their own leisure, none were
discussed at this time.
7. Other Business
None at this time.
8. Next Meeting
Preliminarily scheduled for February 17 at the Metropolitan Mosquito Control District.
Staff will e-mail members on January 7 for finalization of meeting time and date.
9. Adjournment
Connelly moved and Krum seconded to adjourn at 10:55 a.m.
Motion carried unanimously.
Prepared by,
Theresa K. Foster
MetroGIS Technical Coordinator
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